After Losing Hundreds Of Thousands Of Instagram Followers, Katy Perry Explained Why She Collaborated With Dr. Luke On Her Upcoming Album

“Look, I understand that it started a lot of conversations… I am speaking from my own experience. When I speak about 'Woman’s World,' I speak about feeling so empowered now as a mother, as a woman.”

Warning: This article mentions allegations of rape.

In July, Katy Perry released her divisive single “Woman’s World” ahead of her upcoming album, 143.

Katy Perry, dressed in construction-themed attire, poses with six others, mirroring the iconic "Lunch Atop a Skyscraper photo" scene

The song centers around the theme of female empowerment and the “divine feminine,” with Katy singing lyrics like, “Sexy, confident / So intelligent / She is heaven-sent / So soft, so strong,” and, “It’s a woman’s world, and you’re lucky to be livin' in it.”

Katy Perry in the "WOMAN'S WORLD" official music video, lying on the ground with a serious expression

However, several internet users quickly called out the fact that “Woman’s World” had been produced by Dr. Luke, who Kesha has famously accused of drugging and raping her. Dr. Luke has denied the allegations.

Dr. Luke and Katy Perry pose at an event

Katy’s decision to work with Dr. Luke on a single about so-called female empowerment sparked fierce backlash online, with many users branding the collaboration “insensitive and problematic.”

Katy Perry on the red carpet in a sleeveless dress with intricate floral cutouts on the bodice and a subtle floral pattern

Katy continues to face scrutiny for the collaboration; according to analytics site SocialBlade, she has lost over 300,000 followers on Instagram over the past 30 days alone.

Now, Katy has finally addressed the outrage directly.

Katy Perry on the red carpet at the Breakthrough Prize event, wearing a sleek off-shoulder gown with a unique hair braid accessorized with multiple rings

Appearing on the Call Her Daddy podcast this week, Katy was asked about her decision to collaborate with Dr. Luke.

Katy Perry posing on a red carpet, wearing a stylish mesh top attire. She gazes over her shoulder with her long black hair cascading down

“I do wanna ask you about one collaborator in particular,” said host Alex Cooper. “I know a lot of people have expressed disappointment and were really upset that you decided to involve Dr. Luke on this album. Why did you choose to work with him?”

Alex Cooper sits in a podcast studio holding a "Call Her Daddy" cards, speaking into a microphone. Shelves with books are in the background

Katy replied, “Look, I understand that it started a lot of conversations. He was one of many collaborators that I collaborated with. But the reality is, it comes from me.”

Katy Perry, in a podcast studio, sits on a chair, speaking into a microphone with "Call Her Daddy" merch in the background

“The truth is, I wrote these songs from my experience of my whole life going through this metamorphosis. And he was one of the people to help facilitate all that. One of the writers, one of the producers,” she continued.

Katy Perry, in a white crop top and grey pants, sits in a podcast studio with a microphone, shelves with books, and a "Call Her Daddy" sign behind her

“I am speaking from my own experience. When I speak about ‘Woman’s World,’ I speak about feeling so empowered now as a mother, as a woman, giving birth, creating life, creating another set of organs, a brain, a heart — I created a whole ass heart!” she said. Katy welcomed her daughter, Daisy Dove Bloom, with Orlando Bloom in 2020.

Stating that she’s “still a matriarch,” Katy added, “So, I created all of this with several different collaborators — people that I’ve collaborated with from the past, from the 'Teenage Dream' era, from all of that.”

You can listen to Katy’s full appearance on the Call Her Daddy podcast here.

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